This Just in – Finecast Wishlisting Now Major News Item

Been a while, no?  Well after a host of computer issues and personal issues and just simply not giving a fuck, I’ve come back to wax rantosophical about a topic that has just this second become near and dear to my heart- rumors of the Finecast experiment.  I’m sure you’ve seen it already, but some wishlisting chump has decided to stir up a whole hornet’s nest of full hornets of stupidity to bring stings of idiocy to you, your family, your loved ones, your friends, your pets, and even your mortal enemies.  You’ve seen the rumor already, I’m sure, but here it is in all it’s glory copied from some other stupid blogs.  Nobody has actual given a specific source to link back to the original poster, TywinLannister, or even bothered to mention which den of stupid forum this even came from.  So all I can tell you is that TywinLannister is responsible for this bullshit, which is about as impactful as saying that I heard this guy crazy Larry say that I won’t be able to have natural gas pumped into my home anymore due to the ongoing conflict between reptilians and greys over interstellar shipping tariff disputes…  but I digress.  Here’s the bogus rumor in its entirety:

via TywinLannister
I don’t know how reliable GW staffers are, but one has strong feelings that fine cast will be no more in a few months, something about a lack of return, and better plastic casts, apparently the new approach is to focus on the plastic blisters and to slowly but surely stop producing finecast or reserve it for truly exceptional minis.

 

Well, that was a huge waste of time to read.  Folks, don’t buy the hype.  Finecast probably isn’t going anywhere.  With the amount of time, resources, and capital thrown into this project by GW they are not going to abandon it after a few months of being on the market.  Even if the rumors about 100% defective product were true, they’d work on ironing out those kinks before ditching the project.  Even if the return were not what was projected for investors, they would try a few more strategies before walking away.  Even if the UK were hit with an earthquake and all of its stocks of resin were melted after a nuclear plant exploded, they would find a way to make Finecast work.

And that’s just it folks.  This early in a product’s life, they’re going to do everything they can to make it work.  Converting all the old molds for 90% or so of their metal minis and researching new materials isn’t something that any sensible company (say what you will about GW’s business practices, but they are still, all said and done, pretty sensible) would ever consider doing for an “experiment.”  There were probably dozens of experiments done before the finecast launch, but probably involved other materials and methods for creating the models cheaply and with lots of details.  But, these all happened well prior to any product release.    And what I can tell you for damn sure is that short run miniatures will not be released in full-on plastic any time soon.  I can guarantee you that any company looking for a return is not going to (and here is where I’ll require a smattering of salt as these numbers are based on off the cuff remarks from a former FASA employee with which I’m acquainted and may not reflect real world costs) see any kind of a return on selling low volume products like characters and specialty units made with injection molds costing in the tens of thousands of dollars when a resin mold can be made for a few hundred and yield a higher level of detail to boot.

So I guess what I’m saying is: dear Internet, please shut the fuck up and think before you type.  Thoughts?  And I mean it, share your thoughts, however wrong and moronic they may be.  I haven’t gotten in a good old fashioned argument with a dumb fuck on the net in quite some time, so bring it on!

20 Responses to “This Just in – Finecast Wishlisting Now Major News Item”

1. Brent says:

   October 2, 2011 at 5:18 pm

   You wanna fight? I wanna fight!

   A Friday Night Internet Fight.

   I mean, what the hell man?! Put it on the House of Paincakes if you want.

   Or invite me and/or Lauby/Synn/Loq/GMort… or even Kirby and make it a real clusterfuck again!

   C’mon – you know you want to.

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   • TheKingElessar says:

     October 3, 2011 at 11:49 am

     *Ahem*

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     • Dethtron says:

       October 4, 2011 at 5:54 pm

       don’t worry, if that ever happens you’ll be invited….if you respond to my fucking emails that is, you git

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       • ChaosGerbil says:

         October 4, 2011 at 11:44 pm

         Harrumph! FNIF or bust!

         No linkback, no new logo use… what re you in school or soemthing? It’s as if you have a band, a wife, and possibly a NON 40K WARGAME taking up all of your free time. How dare you.

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2. Icebone says:

   October 2, 2011 at 5:22 pm

   Ahaha, read it on several sites where other idiots decided to re-post it. It is especially hilarious given that GW just released specialised products for Finecast.

   The add-bot like nature of many rumour-mongers is really getting to ridiculous levels. Why not actually read the “rumours” you decide to post and think about them before hitting the ctrl + c buttons?

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   • Dethtron says:

     October 4, 2011 at 5:57 pm

     that’s why I try to bring some modicum of sense to the rumor mill situation. I will say, however, that when I “thought” about all of the WFB rumors for the new edition I was hella wrong about everything- in print even!

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   • SandWyrm says:

     October 4, 2011 at 8:03 pm

     I agree that FineCrap isn’t likely to be pulled anytime soon. But let’s at least stop pretending that GW invented this thing. It was a turnkey solution that they bought from a company called TekCast. If you check out their brochure, GW is featured in it.

     GW isn’t going to re-formulate a thing. They’ll cry to TekCast, who will send over the techs to fiddle with the knobs and try and explain that nothing is wrong. They got exactly the process/result that they paid for.

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3. Nikephoros says:

   October 2, 2011 at 6:04 pm

   Missed you Dethtron.

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   • Dethtron says:

     October 4, 2011 at 5:55 pm

     I missed me too

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4. Joe G Kushner says:

   October 2, 2011 at 7:03 pm

   Yeah, multibillion dollars companies like Hewlett Packard would never make a massive mistake that would send their stocks plummeting down. Oh wait…. Companies screw things up all the time. It only takes a few retards in all the right places to do so. Do I believe the rumor? No. Is it possible? Yup.

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   • Dethtron says:

     October 4, 2011 at 5:59 pm

     I’ll give you that, but something on this scale would be boneheaded even by bonehead standards.

     and besides, we all know that HP is really run by a bunch of monkeys with typewriters

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5. dork_mechanicus says:

   October 2, 2011 at 9:30 pm

   Then you have a bit of explaining, Joe, how is it possible? Saying that another, unrelated company in an unrelated industry did something boneheaded is not sufficient evidence.

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6. loquacious says:

   October 2, 2011 at 11:28 pm

   Dude, this was desperately needed!

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7. SoCalWarhammer says:

   October 3, 2011 at 5:39 am

   Everyone is going to try and figure out what GW will do with Finecast. It has been poorly received and the return rates and manufacturing errors have been higher than expected. The real point is that GW will do what is necessary to minimize losses, which may be retooling, quality control, resign reformulation or launching a new product. The only thing I am sure of is this…GW will take NO input or feedback from the consumer and do whatever protects the bottom line. Oh yeah, if some new product is launched (or they go back to metal) it will be more expensive than Finecast.

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8. Von says:

   October 3, 2011 at 7:02 am

   “(say what you will about GW’s business practices, but they are still, all said and done, pretty sensible)”

   This is not for you, D, but for the inevitable knuckle-draggers who will surface from whatever foul, abyssal deeps they normally inhabit at the very utterance of that phrase:

   GW are very good at meeting their goals. Their goals are not our goals. They’re not stupid. Their goals are to pay Tom Kirby his own salary again in dividends, and keep the major investors happy, and they’re (still) meeting that goal. Your goal is… whatever it is, but I’m willing to bet that’s not it.

   That said, I hope they do perfect Finecast, or at least sort it out to some extent, because I… I don’t hate it. I can’t justify spending the money on Finecast models, but having handled someone’s Finecast models it does seem easier to kitbash with than metal, and less likely to snap flying bases apart, which are problems I’ve always had with metal models.

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   • Gx1080 says:

     October 7, 2011 at 1:54 pm

     Agreed. Short-term profit at any cost, anything else be damned.

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9. Alex says:

   October 4, 2011 at 12:01 am

   Hmm, and GW just released some goofy over priced tools for cleaning up resin models. More evidence in support of the argument that the internet is retarded.

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   • Dethtron says:

     October 4, 2011 at 5:55 pm

     chalk up another ummm…victory…for the net!

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10. Dethtron says:

    October 4, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    surprised nobody pointed out the spelling error in the post title… derp

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11. Gx1080 says:

    October 7, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Dear god, do anybody actually bought that line of bullshit? Every miniature company that can do it is pushing resin.

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