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Remember and make in fair and balance something you would want to play with and against! Keep it fair and balance, share with us through our Facebook page, and you could win said Special Character Modeled and Painted by the Beer and Bolters 40K Team! More details coming soon! Whispers from the Warp (News & Rumors): So Many Rumors! So Little Time! Adeptus Mechanicus Codex & models (full release) The Adeptus Mechanicus has been in the rumors lately from Hastings and other sources. We had some very solid details about the mechanicus-Skitarii a month or so ago, and these are resurfacing, simply because of how solid they are, and because I am asking questions about any signs of the Ad Mech being for both 30k and/or 40k. Please remember that these are rumors, and have a 4-5 star rating, meaning extremely accurate. They are also in response to questions I had about any of the information regarding 30k or other 40k timelines mentioned with what was seen with the admech skitarii entries. No, there is no mention of the Horus Heresy on the pages I have seen. These are codex entries, and the weapon section is titled -Armoury of the Forgeworlds- and then goes on to mention arc weapons, cognis weapons, eradication beamer, all like we talked about before. At the very top of the page, it starts off with the text- This section of Codex: Skitarii lists weapons and equipment used by the Skitarii, along with the rules for using them in your games of Warhammer 40,000 There is no mention of Warhammer 30,000, the Great Crusade, or the Horus Heresy. Just 40k. Genestealer Cult Codex & models (Harelquin sized release) Deathwatch Codex & models (Harelquin sized release) Horus Heresy Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of 30k range – Mark 4 + Cataphract armors featured, as well as Contemptor Assassins Standalone box game, on sale for a few months, then models become part of the 40k range. Also of note: Greater Daemons all complete Dark Angels later in the year Tzeentch later in the year Horus Heresy Plastics Info -The Box is a Standalone / Starter Box hybrid Gaming Set (like the last two) -The Box works alone but can be used as a foundation for Crusade Era Armies. -More sets will come to give HH player a foundation in Plastic -Legio Mk4 Power Squad box -Maybe the release of a Termi and a Dread box with neutral designs to combine it with the FW legio specific packs and dreads -Possible a Rhino I upgrade sprue within a own set -GW will release only a foundation of HH kits! -Sells of FW products in the GW-Shop coming soon Finally an old friend from the days of yore telegraphs in this nugget: Ad-Mech scheduled for April (yes that soon) Harlequin Codex Delayed! West Coast docs shut down! WTF Over! 30K Stand Alone Game? “The starter set will be joined by a plastic heresy armour set and some plastic Skitarri over the course of the next year. The idea of these boxes is allow players to create armies that can be played in both 30k and 40k and as such expand both markets. Both Admech and the Legions produced by FW proved to be popular beyond all expectations. So popular infact that GW can justify pumping out kits for a game that isn’t even one of their core games. It’s also being done as a safety nets, in case 9th ed Fantasy (Which 30k now outsells) crashes and burns, then they have 30k in place to pick up the pieces. The Old armour kit will be a mix of armour types rather than a kit of say Mk4 armour. All parts will be of course compatible with the current Space Marine range. I do believe a plastic servitor is being done too.” and the rebuttal… via Hastings 2-17-2015 “This is partially true. The “starter set” is in fact a standalone game, however I’ll accept starter set as it does lead onto the main 30k game. I think it’s safe to assume that 30k could/will have a different game mechanic to 40k, or it would be pretty pointless as a standalone game. Hence the reason that some boxes will contain rules for both 30 & 40k (if the rules weren’t different they’d only include 1 set of rules. It’s not however a safety net for WFB, it’s a replacement for lotr/hobbit on the shelves as AFAIK all of this is going direct only. WFB is going to have plenty of store presence, and regardless of what many (and indeed I) think I don’t think the reboot will be bad for WFB, especially if in it’s current format is failing to sell. Hell at one point it was almost totally canned. You never know new WFB might just be awesome (not finecast awesome either), however my own feelings are that the background is what makes WFB, dick with this then it isn’t WFB any more, and frankly that just isn’t for me. I’m going a little O/T here posting about WFB on 40k (or should that be 30k??) boards but I feel it’s as good a time as any. I think what’s done WFB no good is the high entry cost and investment of time & money to get a decent army, making a game that’s playable as a skirmish game AND a massed battle game does make financial sense, start small, minimal initial outlay, get people interested/hooked, build and buy a bigger army, SADLY this is where GW fall down, THIS IS WHAT THEY USED TO DO YEARS AGO, with games like Heroquest, Warhammer Quest, Blood Bowl etc. get people into the Warhammer world and setting and races of that fantasy world. They lost sight of this and thought that the product was self sustaining, it isn’t, there is much more competition now for peoples hard earned cash than ever before, there are many companies that do similar and in some cases better stuff than GW and people know it, because other companies use the internet etc. to their advantage, GW see it as the enemy, and they are wrong. I guarantee this thread has generated more excitement in a few short hours than crap like warhammer visions ever will, and it won’t cost them hardly anything. People including me are now thinking, maybe I’ll get some nids really for genestealer cults coming along, or I’ll pick up an extra deathstorm box for all the nids, or whatever, that GW is SALES. Hiding away ignoring your fan base is beyond ridiculous, especially in such a niche market. The fact that Whispereroftruth said “Admech….. proved popular beyond all expectations” shows just how little they know/listen to their fanbase, as this has been one of THE most wishlisted armies for so many years it is ridiculous. Anyway enough rambling. Chapter Meeting (Q&A/Discussion): Mark: What fortifications do you find most useful to include in your lists? And what fortifications do you find the most fun to go up against in a game? Greg: Which is more useful a predator or a vindicator? Todd: In the spirit of Chris learning battlefield gothic. What guidance would you veterans give to someone just learning 40k. There's a lot of rules, books and armies. Are there certain aspects you would have the aspirant focus on? Dylan: If you could choose one and only one HQ to have for the space wolves and the Blood angels who would it be? Paul: What are your views on 30k lists going up against 40k lists. I'm asking as my local GW campaign in April both lists can be used against each other