Abuse puppy said this:
>Grey Knights do everything that the Space Wolves do only better.
Grey Knights are worse against hordes (except Purifiers.) Grey Knights can't bring as many bodies, and are thus less resilient. Grey Knights have worse fire support. Grey Knights have minimal access to Meltaguns. Grey Knights don't have the same kind of fast, strong assault units. Grey Knights don't have backfield disruption in the vein of Wolf Scouts. Grey Knights do not get Land Speeders or anything even vaguely like them. Grey Knights don't get the same cheap utility HQs that SW have.
Grey Knights are not just "better SW." Both of them are midfield shooting/assault hybrid armies, but GK uses torrent shooting and elite models, whereas SW uses torrent melee and backfield support shooting.
Let's break it down.
Grey Knights are worse against hordes (except Purifiers.)
Against hordes Grey Knight builds do very well with their shooting. Grey Knight Strike squads can shoot to full effect up to 24" and Grey Knights can crank their stormbolters up to strength 5. Paladins shooting is devastating to hordes, and then they can beat them down in assault. The fact that all of their weapons are all assault means they can move back and keep on firing. The last point is that we just do not see that many horde armies out there anymore. It is possible that the Coteaz henchman build might have some troubles with Hordes and that is about it.
Grey Knights can't bring as many bodies, and are thus less resilient
Paladins are more resiliant than anything that the Space Wolves can put down. In fact, Space Wolves have no good answers for them. What Grey Knights do lack in quantity they make up for in quality.
Grey Knights have worse fire support.
Autocannon Dreads with psybolt ammo are equal to 5 missile launcher long fangs. They are both strength 8, the trade off is that the dreads hit better, but the long fangs are AP3. As far as durability goes, it is hard to say which one is better. The Grey Knight player also can take 6 dreads and Long Fangs are limited to 3. Also dreadnaughts can move and shoot and that is a huge advantage.
Grey Knights have minimal access to Meltaguns.
The Henchman build can take a ton of cheap melta guns. Other Grey Knights builds are limited in their number of Melta Guns, but to make up for this they have rending psycannons that can take down AV14 vehicles at range. Space Wolves struggle to kill AV14 outside of 6".
Grey Knights don't have the same kind of fast, strong assault units
Interceptors can fill this role in a lot of cases. If you are talking about Thunderwolf Cavalry then you are right, but Dark Eldar can pick them apart, and Paladins can shoot them off of the table and then beat them in assault. Also if you are looking for a fast moving assault unit you can load up a Stormraven with paladins or purifiers and then get a 3+ cover save with shrouding and you get get where you need to go.
Grey Knights don't have backfield disruption in the vein of Wolf Scouts.
I take it then that you have never seen an outflanking Interceptor squad?
Grey Knights do not get Land Speeders or anything even vaguely like them
Well, I can say that Space Wolves do not have access to Stormravens or anything like them. What do land speeders add? Typhoons with a moving and shooting missile launcher? Dreadnaughts can do that. I have not seen any other land speeders in a competitive list in a while so I do not know what their vital role is other than giving away free kill points.
Grey Knights don't get the same cheap utility HQs that SW have.
Rune Preist=Librarian, Wolf Lord=Grand Master (Never seen someone use a WGBL or Wolf Priest)
Space Wolves can take 2 more of them than the Grey Knights can but they have to pay the price for them. That is why most Space Wolf armies run around with only 1 or 2 HQs (most of the time a killy lord+rune priest for psychic defense). A big weakness to multi-HQs is that there are so many Grey Knight players and you can only make one of them eternal warrior to stop being force weaponed to death. And in a side note a head to head match up Draigo will rofflestomp(sp) Logan
