"When choosing a Farsight Enclaves army with Commander Farsight as its Warlord, you may take Farsight’s Commander Team instead of Farsight’s XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team. "
"Other" is an important word.
So the Farsight Enclaves list is available. It is available for
Here's the rule that's going to be (IMO) the biggest sticky issue due to how it was worded:
FARSIGHT’S COMMANDER TEAM
When choosing a Farsight Enclaves army, you have access to a special unit called Farsight’s Commander Team. If you choose to take this unit, Commander Farsight does not allow you to take an XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team as normal; he has the Commander Team instead. This special unit is an HQ choice that does not take up a Force Organisation slot and consists of up to seven other battlesuits chosen from the Eight. They must be equipped exactly as described; the Signature Systems rule above does not apply to them. They can take no other options. Each of the Commander Team models is Unique and has the Independent Character special rule.
So what do we do with this? Here are the key points ...
First off - the Commander Team is a series of Independent Characters, inclusive of Farsight (8 total guys to choose from). These IC's are all pretty good ... the most interesting of which for most players probably being O'Vesa, who is an Independent Character Riptide. Yup, you read that right. Hope your gears are whirring.
That said, O'Vesa is 305 points. If you require a 165 point investment in Farsight in order to enable any of these guys, it's a very different book.
OH, and just as an aside, you can ally a Farsight list with a Tau list. Battle Bros.
So anyway ...
- When choosing a Farsight Enclaves Army, you have access to a special unit called Farsight's Commander Team
So far so good ... if you choose this army, you get access to the team.
- If you choose to take this unit, Commander Farsight does not allow you to take an XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team as normal; he has the Commander Team instead.
So, if Farsight is taken, you can't take a Bodyguard for him, because he is PART of the "Farsight's Commander Team" (he's one of the 8 listed). Here's where it gets sticky.
- This special unit is an HQ choice that does not take up a Force Organisation Slot and consists of up to seven other battlesuits chosen from the Eight.
This rule does NOT STATE [and do not "paraphrase" it as] "and consists of up to seven battlesuits chosen from the Eight." It states seven OTHER battlesuits. Seven other suits other than WHAT?
To take any of the referenced seven, you need one to begin with for them to be "other" than. That's the strict RAW. The stricted application of RAW would be that unless you can divine who the "first" is, from whom the additional seven can be Other than, you can't take the team at all, and it's a pointless entry.
So either the word "other" was a mistake, or they intend for there to be one suit you MUST take. Anyone out there who is a rocket scientist (or not) want to take a stab at which one in the Farsight's Command Team of Eight is the mandatory minimum so you can choose up to another seven from the eight?
I ALREADY hear people who are saying since it does not state who the first is, you can take however many of whoever of them you want. The early read amongst our judges is that Farsight is mandatory to take any of them. Reasoned arguments otherwise? Thoughts?
We'll need to clarify these rules ASAP, because we stated we'd be using GW supplements as long as they were more than a month in advance, and available for ALL people (not just Apple users). This is the case here.
Fire away.
So what do we do with this? Here are the key points ...
First off - the Commander Team is a series of Independent Characters, inclusive of Farsight (8 total guys to choose from). These IC's are all pretty good ... the most interesting of which for most players probably being O'Vesa, who is an Independent Character Riptide. Yup, you read that right. Hope your gears are whirring.
That said, O'Vesa is 305 points. If you require a 165 point investment in Farsight in order to enable any of these guys, it's a very different book.
OH, and just as an aside, you can ally a Farsight list with a Tau list. Battle Bros.
So anyway ...
- When choosing a Farsight Enclaves Army, you have access to a special unit called Farsight's Commander Team
So far so good ... if you choose this army, you get access to the team.
- If you choose to take this unit, Commander Farsight does not allow you to take an XV8 Crisis Bodyguard Team as normal; he has the Commander Team instead.
So, if Farsight is taken, you can't take a Bodyguard for him, because he is PART of the "Farsight's Commander Team" (he's one of the 8 listed). Here's where it gets sticky.
- This special unit is an HQ choice that does not take up a Force Organisation Slot and consists of up to seven other battlesuits chosen from the Eight.
This rule does NOT STATE [and do not "paraphrase" it as] "and consists of up to seven battlesuits chosen from the Eight." It states seven OTHER battlesuits. Seven other suits other than WHAT?
To take any of the referenced seven, you need one to begin with for them to be "other" than. That's the strict RAW. The stricted application of RAW would be that unless you can divine who the "first" is, from whom the additional seven can be Other than, you can't take the team at all, and it's a pointless entry.
So either the word "other" was a mistake, or they intend for there to be one suit you MUST take. Anyone out there who is a rocket scientist (or not) want to take a stab at which one in the Farsight's Command Team of Eight is the mandatory minimum so you can choose up to another seven from the eight?
I ALREADY hear people who are saying since it does not state who the first is, you can take however many of whoever of them you want. The early read amongst our judges is that Farsight is mandatory to take any of them. Reasoned arguments otherwise? Thoughts?
We'll need to clarify these rules ASAP, because we stated we'd be using GW supplements as long as they were more than a month in advance, and available for ALL people (not just Apple users). This is the case here.
Fire away.